http://bubbleheads.blogspot.com/2007/11/uss-hampton-easy-button.html
Submarine Iconoclast said...
LMAO at "loyalty up and loyalty down" being used as defense of SUBFOR leadership. Maybe we just have different definitions of loyalty - here is mine:
Hard, honest, capable and willing work is the only loyalty your superiors need. Not patronizing them by holding them to a lower standard than you hold your own men. In turn, establishing clear goals, putting them in position to meet those goals, and recognizing a job well done is the loyalty your men expect from you. Not pressuring them to report good results no matter what the facts are, and claiming any glory for yourself while blaming your men whenever the organization falls short.
Guess which brand of loyalty I have experienced at submarine commands, and which I've seen elsewhere in the Navy and on Joint tours?
Focusing attention where things are going well helps you look good, but doesn't allow you to get better. The Submarine Force has grown arrogant and narcissistic; we need to get over the infatuation with how good we'd like to think we are and start concentrating on where we must improve. Lamenting that junior guys let us down is neither entirely true (yes, some let us down - but that ignores the root causes and dooms us to more of the same) nor productive.
When was the last time someone messed up, stood up and admitted it before anyone else even noticed, was given the chance to fix it, fixed it, and went on to have a successful career in the sub force? THAT is a significant factor in the widespread integrity issues many of us see every day, but are only rarely acknowledged officially. The refusal to admit there is a larger problem is a second major factor in developing the culture of lying found on HAMPTON (and to some extent on many more submarines operating today). VADM Donnelly should be leading change to correct these problems, not insulting his Force by describing real, hard problems we face every day as a simple case of a few individuals choosing the easy way out of a problem.
11/17/2007 8:54 AM
We have been talking about broken windows on rootcauseconference for many years now….you should do a look-up on broken windows and Keric. Notice the date when I first mentioned “broken windows” and NRC chairman Klein!
NRC commissioner Klein:
“First, carelessness in small things may lead to carelessness about bigger things. In the early 1980s, the sociologist James Q. Wilson pioneered the so-called "broken windows" theory of law-enforcement. The idea was that when small signs of disorder or decay—such as vandalism, graffiti, or even excessive littering—are allowed to persist, it leads to bigger crimes, because people assume that the neighborhood does not have any standards, and that no one is enforcing the law.
It is a theory that was actually put into practice in several major cities, and led to major reductions in crimes. One lesson we can take from that is: Perception leads to reality.”
I think Klein is using a sociological theory of “broken windows” in a extremely shallow way…it’s almost false. It is like we are looking at the problem of the inner city blight and poverty through the lens of the power, influence and wealth system...as an infration of laws by the powerless people by the powerful…while the little people feel they have no way to climb out of poverty, hopelessness and their sins…because all of society has shunned the poor and all paths has been cut off to the middle class....because there is too little social mobility.
Nothing more represents this than in New Orleans’s within Katrina…where the American Katina refugees were trying to flee the horrendous conditions through the “Crescent City Connection”…"The bridge to Gretna"…where the whites by force of guns where keeping the blacks and poor within the inhumane conditions of our largest natural disaster.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretna,_Louisiana
I think that “bridge to Gretna” represent a class and wealth demarcation…with the wealthy keep out the dirty poor by what ever means necessary.
I am astonished Klein sees this in such simplistic terms...and doesn't want to understand this in its complete complexity. I hope he doesn't see the problems in the current industry and the new nukes...in these simplistic terms.
God help the nuclear industry then!
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Mulligan
To: USS_Scorpion_SSN-589@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:55:59 AM
Subject: Re: [USS_Scorpion_SSN-589] Re: Credibility, facts and evidence....and gulags
Todd,
Actually it began big time with Mayor Giuliani of NYC and ending with his police chief Kerik. All the rest of the country followed them. It is interesting looking at this from today…with Keric accused of fraud and mafia ties. Giuliani began the big “broken window” policy…filled up our prisons with the mentally ill…in defense of sterilizing Manhattan for the moneyed interest. You can’t get by corrupt NYC police chief Keric with his mafia Gucci shoes that ended the Giuliani broken windows years….with the justice of the homeless and mentally ill sitting in prisons. You get that don’t you, Giuliani and Keric fingered the law breaking of the littlest peoples…while Keric is the police chief… and lies and break laws, steals and is corrupt beyond belief. Sounds like the Navy to me?
I worked on the Vermont Governor Dean issue during his presidential campaign…with him covering up the gulag like conditions of Vermont state mental hospital. In order to be president we have to show financial responsibility as a state governor…no deficits…and thus making worst the horrors of the state hospital under his watch.
Of course all of these politician’s are doing the bidding of the American public.
Thanks,
mike
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Mulligan
To: Michael Mulligan
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:46:41 AM
Subject: Re: [rootcauseconference] Start with ????Giuliani
So who picks up that dirt on the floor, is it the powerless Kerik’s illegal alien housekeeper who he’s not paying taxes on? Is it the low paid worker you just hired? Who metaphorically gets fingered with culpability...is it a sliding scale? How about the long term employees...who knows about the results of not dealing with small problems? Should we more blame the degreed individual who has been trained on the broad view...how about the managers? The higher the degree... the more we should blame them for walking by the same problems. The executives, the CEO...all the governmental overseers...don’t think these guys operated a broom in a long
time...maybe we should key culpability to income levels. Should we hold the elders more culpable more than the teenagers? How about a loner or somebody who is very popular?
So for the sin of walking past the exact same dirt on the floor...ignoring it...for the entry level employee, to the president of the USA...do we hold them equally culpable for ignoring the small problems...should we hold one more culpable because of their knowledge and position...the power they hold?
Thanks,
mike
No comments:
Post a Comment